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Comment by Jan King on April 23, 2008 at 2:10pm
Hi Tony,
I think that's brilliant. I had never, ever thought of operating a marionette on chains. Can you describe what the movement was like for both you and the puppet?
Comment by Tony on April 23, 2008 at 2:27pm
The main problem was that the chain had more weight than the part it was moving. This creates a different feel than you are used to. You end up moving the chain rather than the marionette and hoping that the puppet goes where you want. Difficult to describe but it was sort of like having a time delay
The wide shots were done from scaffolding but the majority of the shots were done with us working from floor level which made life a lot easier when the chains were only just over a metre long. It still made for a heavy puppet, Our arms were pretty tired each day.

I had thought of using chain before but on a much smaller wooden puppet where I was going to use jewelery chain. This would work well i think as the weight would still be on the side of the puppet.

Comment by Westpuppets on April 24, 2008 at 12:18pm
Guess you don't have worry about braking or tangleing strings! Has anyone tried wire before?
Comment by Tony on April 24, 2008 at 2:17pm
True, that wasn't a problem. Keeping them attached to the controller was though as I was using one of my standard controls and didn't want to ruin it, so I ended up using a lot of tape.

Haven't tried wire but have used fishing line, that's quite nasty.
Comment by Westpuppets on April 25, 2008 at 11:19pm
Alright you marionette experts out there. I have only built about 50 marionettes or so but one problem I have is that when they walk the knees not only come up, but then go out! What am I doing wrong?
Comment by Tony on April 26, 2008 at 7:25am
Well i'm no expert, but that doesn't normally stop me :o).............
Do you mean as the knees come up they pull the pelvis/body forwards or do you mean they go out sideways at an angle?
If it's the former then probably just more weight is needed in the body as the centre of gravity is in the wrong place.
If it's the latter then having a leg/hip joint that doesn't allow for sideways movement will certainly solve that but if you want that range of movement for other reasons then you just have to make sure leg strings pull vertically by having the rocker bar attached to the controller.

They are my first thoughts, what do others think?........
Comment by Jan King on April 26, 2008 at 9:28am
I'm no expert either, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'but then go out!'. I'm only being picky.

However, on something completely different, on puptcrit they have lately been talking about 'The Little Pianist', which you can find on http://current.com/
I can't get the hyperlink to work to get straight to it, but if you key in The Little Pianist you should get it.
What do you think?
Comment by Westpuppets on April 27, 2008 at 2:35pm
You really want to see the controller? You wish is my command!
Comment by Westpuppets on April 27, 2008 at 2:37pm
BTW, by going out I mean they seem to turn to the left or right with each step. I have a waist that does not turn left or right it helps but then the whole puppet turns.
Comment by Jan King on April 27, 2008 at 4:23pm
Don't know if this helps, but the first picture is of the top of a Clown puppets leg, just wire going thru and into the hip piece. The second shows the knee and foot joints, they are just small hinges, with thinner wire substituted for the rod already in the hinge.


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